What happened to TN2124?

Discussion:

John Hawkinson

2011-07-04 23:16:07 UTC

I'm sorry if this isn't the best place to ask (redirect appreciated).

What happened to Apple Tech Note TN2124, Mac OS X Debugging Magic
http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#technotes/tn2004/tn2124.html
? It seems to have been gone for a few weeks.

That URL now redirects to http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/navigation/.

It had a wealth of information and is extremely valuable. I find myself
using it with some regularity. (There are several google-able mirrors,
and I have a saved copy, but...)

Thanks. And happy July 4 to those of you in the US!

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John Hawkinson

Andy Lee

2011-07-05 01:44:49 UTC

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Funny, I was just about to ask the same thing as I was looking for that page myself.

Googling for "debugging magic site:developer.apple.com" turns up TN2124 as the first hit, as it should -- but the link is broken. As John says, it redirects to the main reference page.

The second search result is TN2239, which is the iOS counterpart of TN2124. It conveniently contains a link to TN2124 -- which turns out to be the same broken link I had previously tried.

I've been getting an unsettling feeling lately, like things are breaking down rather than coming together in the world of docs. It seems I run into a lot more broken links than I should. I wonder if they are unusually understaffed lately.

I don't mind putting up with some transitional pain if there is some structural change. For example, if there is an old page in the docs that doesn't have an exact counterpart in the latest docs, I don't mind being redirected to the right general area. But all too often I find myself at http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/navigation/.

TN2124 is a standalone doc. There's no reason for it to disappear, especially when the iOS docs still link to it. Google doesn't even have a cached version. The nearest I can find is a Japanese version.

Am I missing some announcement or release note that would explain this?

--Andy

Post by John Hawkinson
I'm sorry if this isn't the best place to ask (redirect appreciated).
What happened to Apple Tech Note TN2124, Mac OS X Debugging Magic
http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#technotes/tn2004/tn2124.html
? It seems to have been gone for a few weeks.
That URL now redirects to http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/navigation/.
It had a wealth of information and is extremely valuable. I find myself
using it with some regularity. (There are several google-able mirrors,
and I have a saved copy, but...)
Thanks. And happy July 4 to those of you in the US!
John Hawkinson
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John Hawkinson

2011-07-05 01:53:00 UTC

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Post by Andy Lee
TN2124 is a standalone doc. There's no reason for it to disappear,
especially when the iOS docs still link to it. Google doesn't even
have a cached version. The nearest I can find is a Japanese version.

http://web.archive.org/web/20101206131250/http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#/web/20101113130453/http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/technotes/tn2004/tn2124.html

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Kyle Sluder

2011-07-05 03:11:54 UTC

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It doesn't render correctly, and nobody's gotten around to fixing it,
so it got auto-retired: https://devforums.apple.com/message/472290

File a bug asking for it to come back.

--Kyle Sluder

jerry porter

2011-07-05 03:30:52 UTC

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How about:
http://george.insideiphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/mac-os-x-debugging-magic-tn2124.pdf

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Subject: Re: What happened to TN2124?

It doesn't render correctly, and nobody's gotten around to fixing it,
so it got auto-retired: https://devforums.apple.com/message/472290

File a bug asking for it to come back.

--Kyle Sluder

John Hawkinson

2011-07-05 04:26:14 UTC

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Thank you, Kyle.

I understand from offline discussion that it's best for everyone who
cares to go to http://bugreport.apple.com and file a bug (which will
then be duped into the master bug tracking this, but will be a show of
interest/priority that will make this more likely to happen).

Andy, would you do so as well? [I have done so.]

Thank you.

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John Hawkinson

Post by Kyle Sluder
It doesn't render correctly, and nobody's gotten around to fixing it,
so it got auto-retired: https://devforums.apple.com/message/472290
File a bug asking for it to come back.

Andy Lee

2011-07-07 12:24:41 UTC

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Sorry, I've been swamped. I just filed rdar://9736420.

I also submitted a documentation bug at <http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#technotes/tn2239/_index.html>, using the "It's good, but..." link at the bottom. I pointed out that the iOS doc links more than once to TN2124.

Thanks to all for the alternate links for getting TN2124.

--Andy

Post by John Hawkinson
Thank you, Kyle.
I understand from offline discussion that it's best for everyone who
cares to go to http://bugreport.apple.com and file a bug (which will
then be duped into the master bug tracking this, but will be a show of
interest/priority that will make this more likely to happen).
Andy, would you do so as well? [I have done so.]
Thank you.
John Hawkinson

Post by Kyle Sluder
It doesn't render correctly, and nobody's gotten around to fixing it,
so it got auto-retired: https://devforums.apple.com/message/472290
File a bug asking for it to come back.

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